recently reread president obama's speech to the u.n. where there is no question he is saying the video did it. all of that was false. they all had reason to know it was false. clapper is just a clown. i mean, he does this all the time. and the idea that james clapper can take responsibility for making the changes, why isn't president obama furious at him? why doesn't president obama fire him today if the president really believed that clapper made a huge mistake? >> gretchen: that's a loaded question because as director of national intelligence to say one thing and then say another, especially when it has to do with al-qaeda, are they throwing him under the bus? >> look, i think he put himself under the bus by probably giving congress in those private briefings, a false answer. he said, we didn't make the changes. he said that to members of congress, presumably he was under oath, and then publicly says, oh, wait, we did make thet perjury. that's all that is. that is not ultimately taking responsibility. look, i think this does rest with two people. susan rice, who made those statements rep
